Back to Work (Episode 1)
- Merlin Mann: To tell you the truth Dan, yeah, I mean I like doing podcast stuff, but there’s a reason I stopped doing the Merlin Show, and there’s a reason— I mean it’s hard. For me. To do.
- Merlin Mann: And I like the stuff that you do so much. And I really like— oh, god, who’s that guy with the weird hair? Is it Grubby? What’s his name … Grubber?
- Dan Benjamin: John Gruber.
- Merlin Mann: The guy— what’s his name?
- Dan Benjamin: John Gruber.
- Merlin Mann: I’m not familiar with his work. But he seems like a really mean guy and a bit of an alcoholic.
- Dan Benjamin: *laughing*
- Merlin Mann: —and you seem to keep him on an even keel. He doesn’t really talk like that. When you’re with him, he sounds more like some kind of a puppet that somebody dropped.
- Merlin Mann: And you keep him sounding like somebody who’s not out of his mind, and I need you to do that for me.
